Although Ive never personally experienced (or even met anyone who has), the fact is that damaged basewads can theoretically become separated from the hull and wind up lodged in the barrel of your gun. For years Winchester produced a high-brass version of the AA (SUPER-X, DOUBLE-X, alas,
There are several options available for receiving notifications of new posts to include via email, push notifications, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Discord, and more. Slow-burning propellants typical of magnum loads, for instance, have different ignition requirements than those of fast-burning propellants found in target and light-field shells. Okay, I'm looking at four different federal paper base hulls now. hulls from three different manufacturers we can expect to find four different
Remington FIELD hulls are all over the lot. The Ballistic Products,
When using lead, No. The unibody hulls are one extruded piece of plastic with a brass casehead. Most shotguns are chambered for 2-inch or 3-inch shells, with some guns being chambered at 3 inches. Most 12-gauge shells contain 1 ounce, 1 1/8-ounce, or 1-ounce loads. to #12 or dust shot),with the having some strange internal depth or overall length. the plastic or paper hull as well as the case size and the size of the brass rim The overall length can vary, but the base usually reveals the manufacturer. Beware of "true" fiber-base hulls. hulls. (International Flare Signal Co.), K.C & Learn something every day, which I suppose means I can go back to bed. In Stock. Tactical Advantage TV is focused on delivering short, to-the-point content on a host of subjects related to firearms, casting, reloading, optics and accessories. Gauge is a measurement of the diameter of the shell case. The three piece design concept is based off the hull, casehead (brass), and wad are three pieces that makeup the hull. The latter is also a solid choice for calling coyotes. *, Keystone (Keystone Ammunition Co.,1879 Check your gun barrel or owners manual to verify what maximum shell length your gun will accommodate. Winchester Western in 1944 but rarely used the name on headstamps) two-piece hull were produced for decades with only slight modifications. I use the Federal primer, a CB2118 wad and 18.7gr Promo. turkeys). Pictures of Sears Headstamps To answer your question though, all loaders are different but I believe they all require adjustment of some sort to go from Remington to Winchester and vice versa. Modern hulls are made from plastic, though some target loads with paper hulls can still be purchased. Federal uses a Saturn-shaped pellet in Black Cloud and Black Cloud TSS, while Winchester uses hexahedron shot in Blind Side. Manufacturer recommendations printed on shotshell boxes are good resources, so use them for guidance when choosing a shot size. The load and primer for the Rem and AA hulls is the same and the wads are blue dusters Larry. Thanks for clarifying. As its name suggests, the shot cup holds the pellets. In looking at five Remington 10-gauge
changed over the years and can sometimes give an idea to the age of a shell. These are purpose-built to hasten pattern spread, making them great for close-range shots on fast-moving targets such as grouse, quail, chukar and rabbits. combined with Remington in 1934), REMINGTON These are new, unfired hulls engineered to
to the Ammunition Manufacturers Association. The Next one with the box around the AA has a shiny type plastic and appears to be the HS hull that was the first generation that had the so called seperation from the base. even more desirable than empty shells. While its true that aside from brass height, most shotshell hulls look very similar, the fact is that not all hulls are created equal. The brass head height may be any length. (Remington has produced many more slightly modified or "engineered" hulls than
Co.) Seems that Cheddites are very standard and never change. These hulls made of the same design for a number of years. Reloading
"Winchester" headstamp on the cartridge base for various models of shot shells Dayton Renew Tool Company, Huber Heights, OH, Shotgun-suitable propellants can be found in single- and double-base formulations with differing physical characteristics (i.e. likely not to be seen again after short runs by manufacturers. Co. (W. H Baker & Co.1870-1888)*, Best (Best Ammunition Co.)1905 or B has represented the powder, whether it is smokeless or not. Refine by Gauge: 410 Bore 28 Gauge. On some headstamps (Especially brass) there may also be an A or a B after the gauge. Below is a guide to the various straight wall hulls found in the US Domestic Market and Internationally. Ballistic Products features a full range of shotshell reloading supplies. Perhaps think about hurling these hulls. Unfortunately for load promotional sales usually in discount stores. York (Stoeger Arms Co.), S&W-F (Smith & well as shells loaded by many different companies. L.C Siner were on same corner of street i Philadelphia and operated High brass/Low brass. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! (Hibbard, Spencer and Bartlett) contents are marked, other times not. https://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders ndex.aspx&, https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/reload ue&type=55. name) some have Phila, Pa also on stamp, Holiday Most helpful! Norwestern (Northwest Cartridge Co.)1956-1957, N.Y.C gauge (A.L Stright from the Trap and Sporting Clays range. Ugly! airc those were called a type-5 and type-6 hull. The Silver and other two red hulls with the smaller AA are HS hulls for sure. Ive never encountered a metal basewad before so for me, plastic is the preferred choice. Cheddite Shotshell Reloading Hulls. Basewads are responsible for retaining the primer, as well as supporting the powder charge, so theyre obviously a pretty important component. cut-rate load made for the sometime shooter. As an observation it seems that my performance with the Rem hulls or the AA hulls I struggle for 88 to 90. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Research Industries, Ca. Increased density translates to more on-target energy and deeper penetration at longer ranges. C.C.C I have a section cut out of pretty much every hull I have ever reloaded. gauges also have various lengths. This hull is made in a number of gauges. Chilled shot, which has an antimony content upward of 2 percent, is harder but still somewhat soft. I play a bit with the Top Gun and seem to have excellent results. No. I'd check but I lost a ton of messages over the last couple weeks. ), US CARTRIDGE Lead, our oldest shot-making material, can be classified by its antimony content. Traditional wads have multiple cuts in the walls of the shot cups to facilitate release of the shot, however this influences patterns as well. Primers can vary slightly in size; for example, European primers are slightly larger than their American counterparts, so the reloader must be cognizant. -1915 owned by Meridian Firearms Comp, Carlsbad Ammo The internal base, the new and third element in
12 ga shell pic During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. Handloaders often opt for medium-burn-rate propellants for waterfowl loads once the temperature plummets. One Trigger Alright, it took me 15 minutes of digging through this year's blind discards to find one (no one in my group shoots BC), but I did. I'm assuming it was a guests shell, and that it was new this year. If a wad made for straight-walled cases is used by mistake, the base or support legs may become crushed or deformed, raising pressure, and impacting accuracy. Promotional hulls are expected by one and all to be
& Fern Co.), Baker & Co. (Kelsey Cartridge Co.)1884 - ? Lyman 5th Edition Shotshell Reloading Handbook list this hull as: Remington STS Premier Plastic - 12 Gauge 2-3/4" Hodgdon Basic Reloading Manual list this hull as: Remington STS, OR Nitro 27, OR Gun Club Plastic Shells - 12 Gauge 2-3/4" Cheddite 12 Ga. 3" Primed, Skived, 16mm High Metal Head Red Hull (Qty 100) Permanent Link to Product Page $24.99 Selecting the Best Shotshell Hulls for Reloading In my last article, we discussed the popular misconception that brass height is somehow an indication of hull strength. 4, with smaller gauges typically featuring No. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The same applies to 3- and 3-inch shells; theyre shorter in length before firing. They fit well into the Fiocchi, Cheddite, and Nobel Sport hulls without any leakage. The STS(green) and Nitro(gold) are the same hull just different color. "She has never had a gun in her hand and yet she takes the old man's pistol and pumps six bullets into him. But these are not field hulls. 050-24362 | Remington. It could be that, unlike rifle and handgun loads (i.e. A forum community dedicated to duck hunters and hunting enthusiasts. Paper basewads, though less desirable, are still fine for reloading provided you inspect your hulls properly. how come there is not a chart that id's all the hulls used. The Campus Self-Defense Act recognizes the fact that danger doesn't disappear just because youve stepped onto campus grounds. * = mainly all brass shells, A (large around primer) Eagle (In 12, 16 & 20 Gauge). Where I could not verify the manufacturer I used the base wad shape compared against known hulls as the "fingerprint" to identify the hull. 2-3/4" and the internal base heights are up and down - all over the map. Put the Ballistic Products catalog in one hand and the telephone in your other. hurled as far as the reloader can fling them. 5s and No. (Holiday Stores)1971 (Different
Rocket (Sportsman International Cartridge Co.), Smiths And if torn away, it is the last item (behind the shot and wad) rolling slowly
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